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Jun 8, 2021

Widower poet Barry Johnson returns!

I first met Barry when we recorded about a year ago. Just four months before we recorded, Barry was almost dead. Three months before that recording, Barry’s life was saved by a liver transplant.

In this episode,

Barry makes a confession—I urge you to listen with compassion and empathy.

Barry bares his heart about his depression-where it comes from-rough stuff.

Is Barry still pissed at God?

How work helps Barry cope. Barry reads his poem.

And Barry’s personal demon: being unworthy of love.

And lots more.


  • Feeling Good, Finally
  • New Pony Tail
  • Still Pissed at God?
  • Don't Waste This Gift
  • Depression Strikes Back
  • Confession
  • The Thai Judgment-Free Chat Room
  • Quarantined: I Hated Being Alone
  • Sex Worker Ted Talk 
  • How Work Helps
  • Poem Reading: Grief Never Changes

Thanks for listening.


Barry's past episodes with his Once-Upon-A-Time story:

The Phoenix is a Poet - Parts 1,2, and 3.

Ted Talk: What a sex worker can teach us about human connection--Nicole Emma.

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